David Hewlett & Robert Picardo Return to Syfy in "Morlocks"

By Jamie Ruby

MorlocksFans of Syfy will most like recognize David Hewlett and Robert Picardo from the Stargate series, as Rodney McKay and Richard Woolsey, respectively. However, they have both appeared in many other series as well. Hewlett has appeared on shows such as Sanctuary and The Closer. Picardo of course is well known for his role in the Star Trek franchise, but has also appeared in series such as Smallville and Castle. The actors have also appeared on film as well, Hewlett appeared in the recent Rise of the Planet of the Apes, and Picardo has quite a few upcoming movies, such as End of the Road and Camilla Dickinson.

Hewlett and Picardo recently sat down for an interview with the digital media to discuss Syfy's Morlocks, where creatures from the past come to the future to devour the human race. The movie airs tonight on Syfy.

Syfy Conference Call
David Hewlett and Robert Picardo

September 21, 2011
1:00 pm CT

MorlocksSCIFI VISION: Hi, guys. Thanks so much for talking to us today.

ROBERT PICARDO: Oh, it's our pleasure

DAVID HEWLETT: We love talking.

SCIFI VISION: First, why don't you explain your characters and what the movie's?

DAVID HEWLETT: Robert, you want to go first?

ROBERT PICARDO: David plays the point of view character, so why don't you go first while I furiously think.

DAVID HEWLETT: So you can quickly jot some notes down. Well, yeah, I guess again I find myself playing the somewhat grumpy scientist; strange how that happens. And basically James Radnor is a scientist who has developed a way of jumping through time basically, but he doesn't realize that he's actually succeeded in his mission. He thinks he's failed and basically killed the last team that tried it out.

So we basically find him at the beginning of the film, he's resorted to writing fiction books about what he's actually done and that's where we find him and where he gets sucked backed into this time machine program.

ROBERT PICARDO: And as far as I'm concerned, I guess I'm playing the cantankerous commander once again, but that's about as far as the similarity with Woolsey on Stargate would go. This guy is old military and he's the commander of this base, but he's been being driven a little mad by the fact that his son, who's also in the service is dying of cancer and he becomes quite irrational and decides that the clue to saving his son's life may exist in this DNA from these super powerful creatures in the future.

So, I guess you could say that he creates the time paradox of the piece by trying to steal genetic information from the future to save his son in the present.

DAVID HEWLETT: Time paradox, that's pretty heavy stuff there.

ROBERT PICARDO: Well, I have all that Star Trek stuff going for me too, so I know this stuff inside out.

DAVID HEWLETT: Of course. Of course.

I thought it was just (gravy).

SCIFI VISION: Obviously the idea of the Morlocks comes from The Time Machine and everything, but it sounds like from what you're saying, at least from what I remember of the original movie, it's not really a remake.

DAVID HEWLETT: No, no, I would say very, very, very, very loosely are we associated with the original Time Machine.

ROBERT PICARDO: And I would say it would be easier for H.G. Wells to recognize a television than recognize his own story here.

DAVID HEWLETT: Absolutely, very nice, yes. The odds of...

SCIFI VISION: All right.

DAVID HEWLETT: ...Bulgaria.

SCIFI VISION: How did you guys become involved in the film?

DAVID HEWLETT: Well, as soon as I knew Robert was doing it you know I'm there. You know, because Robert...

ROBERT PICARDO: I just wanted to be colder than I've ever been before and shooting a movie on an unheated sound stage in Bulgaria in the middle of winter sounded like just the ticket for me.

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah, he eventually had to go outside to get warmer because the studio was actually colder than it was outside because at least outside the (odd bit) of sun would show. Yeah, I think we're just gluttons for punishment, basically, aren't we Robert? We can do, "Oh that'll be unpleasant. Sure, sign me up."

ROBERT PICARDO: David, I have to say the only warmth that was generated was when I would laugh at David's jokes between takes. My body would sort of convulse with laughter and that generated a tiny bit of heat.

DAVID HEWLETT: If I hadn't met my wife before Robert, I would have married Robert because he laughs at my jokes almost as much as Jane does.

ROBERT PICARDO: Can you imagine what our children would look like? But that - no that's a little weird.

DAVID HEWLETT: I hear you.

ROBERT PICARDO: He has a very beautiful son now (and I think)...

DAVID HEWLETT: I'm guessing not a lot of hair.

In fact, they'd look just like Morlocks basically with the...

ROBERT PICARDO: Well, this could be the hidden story behind the story of Morlocks.

DAVID HEWLETT: In the sequels of the sequels, yes.

QUESTION: Jamie just asked how you got involved, and I just wonder if you could talk maybe a little bit higher level. And what I'm getting at here, is you're both really well established in science fiction obviously, and on the Syfy Channel. And I was wondering when a project like this comes up do they just come to you with a script and say, "Hey, would you like to do this," or is there any kind of an audition that you still have to go through for something like this?

DAVID HEWLETT: I auditioned every day to keep the job.

ROBERT PICARDO: David and I do enjoy, I guess, being a little flippant sometimes in our answers. But in all truth, I mean as far as my relationship with the project, I think that the Syfy Channel has a list of actors that are well-known to their audience from - and most of them having appeared in other science fiction series.

David was on board first. He plays basically the lead in the piece so when I got the call saying, "They've offered you this role and one of your Stargate co-stars will be playing the other part." And I found it was David then I knew that it would be a lot of fun to work with him again, and also I thought it was interesting to play a character who was basically being driven insane for an emotional reasons. It's unusual to play a hard ass military guy who's lost control of his judgment because of an emotional reason.

So, it sounded like a fun thing to do and I love to go to Europe and I've heard about Bulgaria. I'd never shot there before. So, those were the main reasons. Also, it was right before Christmas so it got me out of Christmas shopping with my wife.

DAVID HEWLETT: Sweet. You're like the Grinch, like an actor acting Grinch. Yeah, I mean that's basically the same for me. I got a call - I've done a couple of shows out in Bulgaria before and I have this sort of twisted love for shooting out there because it is a truly unique experience. I mean, it's unlike anything you experience in North America for good and bad.

But, it reminded me pretty much of the old days of making films with my friends where it's basically just seat of your pants-type of shooting many of the time. And for some reason, maybe it's like childbirth, you forget it - you forget the pain and so you come back and have another one. At least that's what (my wife will go with).

So yeah, I've done a couple of them before and got the call about this and it just seemed like fun. They always are fun. I mean, they are what they are. They are they don't aspire to artistic genius; they're just a bit of fun to watch and a nice little sort of roller coaster ride. There's some fun monsters and lots of shooting and blood and stuff. You know, the stuff that I like watching, so...

QUESTION: For both of you, what was your favorite part or the most fun experience you had on this particular movie filming in Bulgaria, or was there one thing that really stands out?

ROBERT PICARDO: Again, first of all, we worked with some really talented, wonderful British actors let by Christina Cole who plays David's ex-wife. And I mean I - sort of ongoing romantic interest. Yeah, she's terrific, yeah.

DAVID HEWLETT: Amazing actress.Yeah.

ROBERT PICARDO: And there were a number of British actors, forgive me for not mentioning their names at the...

DAVID HEWLETT: Well, there's Hamish Clark and Ray Fearon, Jim Fyfe, Iain McKee, and a (fellow American) called (Unintelligible) as well as another one, so - I looked them up.

ROBERT PICARDO: Oh, look at him. Isn't it wonderful he does his homework for an interview? I appreciate that, David, you're making us look good. But, all I remember is they were all - they were terrifically...

DAVID HEWLETT: I was going to say, I wouldn't do it for most of the people, but these guys were just fantastic. I mean, they were a fantastic bunch.


ROBERT PICARDO: There you have it; they were all unique and very strong. And so, the experience of working with them and again the work conditions were tough with the weather, so we all had to kind of bond together and keep it light too because it was so cold and there was steam pouring out of our mouths at every moment.

So, my main recollection is that we did laugh a lot between takes. They were - like any creature movie you're reacting a lot of time to things that are going to be put in later, and I think given our respective experience in Sci-Fi series television, David and I are used to looking at nothing and responding as if...

DAVID HEWLETT: And working with nothing.

ROBERT PICARDO: ...there's something there. So, I remember principally, as I said, the laughter, the jokes, the - and the fact that Bulgarians still smoke very heavily on the set.

DAVID HEWLETT: It's like their patriotic duty, basically, to smoke at all times.

ROBERT PICARDO: Right. Second hand smoke is their main gift to you as a visitor.

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah, so we had to go again because the cinematographer had the cigarette in front of the lens and that kind of stuff.

Yeah, I think two sort of favorite things for me, (unintelligible) - some for horror and just some for humor was, I mean everyone had such a great sense of humor about it. And the British actors are so fantastic because they're like a part of the crew. There's not that sort of, "Oh, we're challenged," they're like trained crew members basically, so they approach the acting that way.

And as a result they're just fantastic fun and good sports about it all, which is not always the case. I don't know how you found this, but not always the case in sort of Hollywood stuff. I don't know, but anyway so that was the (unintelligible). But, a couple things that stood out for me, one which I'm sure Robert will love me bringing up was Robert falling through the time rift.

Remember that - where you have to scream? He has to scream and wave his arms in front of a green screen...

ROBERT PICARDO: Yeah, I'm really not looking forward to seeing that shot because also, you know...

DAVID HEWLETT: ...and I insisted on standing there, you know? I stood there and watched...

...It worked...


ROBERT PICARDO: ...the effects are done on a budget, so I'm sure that whatever they put around me while I'm screaming I was hoping it would cover me up. So, I have not seen it yet, so that is a...

DAVID HEWLETT: You know what, it's so short. It's so quick. Because I was looking for it, because I was waiting for it, because I was hoping to tease you ruthlessly about it today, but it's actually really brief and it looks really good. Like, it's got the whole...

ROBERT PICARDO: So David, you've actually seen the movie?

DAVID HEWLETT: I cheated. I called and got the screener so I could watch it last night.

ROBERT PICARDO: Oh, good for you. See, I told you, he's totally prepared for this. Now, at least I'm working on stage at night, so I have a reason for not (seeing)...


DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah, you're busy. You have like a life and a career and stuff. I've given up on all that, so I just go back and watch all the old films I've done.

ROBERT PICARDO: You can tell he makes me laugh, guys.

DAVID HEWLETT: You're in Cabaret now. Robert was nice enough to send me an email, even though he knows that singing, dancing, and stage plays are not generally something that I do. But yeah, you're like busy all the time now? So, the other...

ROBERT PICARDO: I am working at night in Cabaret and Rachel Luttrell, fellow Stargate alumnus, came to see it and gave me a great review, so you could call her and she'll talk you into it.

DAVID HEWLETT: She's such a suck up. I can't believe that woman. The other thing that leaps to mind about having fun, or not really having fun, but was amusing, was there's a fantastic blood cannon that they love to use on these things, and so Christina and I got to stand in front of this blood cannon and basically got shot in the face with about 40 buckets worth of chuck meat, you know?

So strangely, I found that so much fun that I used it again when I was back directing the next one, so I could then basically fire it at other actors instead and get my aggressions out that way, but yeah those are two things. It was poor Robert standing there in front a green screen waving his arms going, "Ahhh," and then this flying meat coming at me at like 400 miles an hour.

ROBERT PICARDO: Well, those are interesting. All of these are potential career killers. David has seen the movie, I haven't, but you can be sure that it's probably better to talk about that particular moment from the point of view of innocence.

QUESTION: Where do you get that great latte art, David?

DAVID HEWLETT: There was a little place in - sorry, Robert - because I have, as I say, no life or career, I take photographs of the things that people do on the top of the lattes that I ordered when I was living in Point Roberts. And there was this woman in (Towastin) who would do these amazing little sort of creatures and stuff, I guess like gorillas and monkeys and stuff.

I took photos basically to show my son, but then ended up just sort of tweeting them because I was so amused at how much time - well, it got to the point basically the coffee was so cold by the time I got it because of the amount of time she took doing these little art things, but yeah she's amazing, you know?

QUESTION: What can you guys tell us was the most challenging aspect of filming this film?

DAVID HEWLETT: Staying alive.

ROBERT PICARDO: Well, aside from the cold...

QUESTION: Smoke from the Bulgarians.

ROBERT PICARDO: ...and the constant use of imagination to guess what you're reacting to, I remember that being transported to and from the set in these very old vehicles off very kind of rough terrain and rough roads was a little scary. I remember going home at night that we were sometimes praying in the backseat of the vehicle.

Do you recall the same, David?

DAVID HEWLETT: Oh my God. I resorted to having very large, they call them happy teas. It's basically just brandy with a tiny drop of hot water in it and I would put back a giant one of those in the hopes of being comatose enough on the drive home that I wasn't going to like throw up or basically have a heart attack and die. So, it's a whole different...


DAVID HEWLETT: ...style of driving.

ROBERT PICARDO: Yeah, the biggest challenge was really getting to the set and getting home, rather than what happened there.

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah, and just fighting not be in the front seat, because you know that you're first one dead. Yeah...


ROBERT PICARDO: You're the first one to get propelled through the windshield 250 feet...


DAVID HEWLETT: ...yeah. Yeah, I think, Robert, you hit it on the head there. It's the combination of environment because it was incredibly cold, and also just trying to work with things that aren't there. I mean, there was a lot of Morlocks running around and trying to keep track of who were Morlocks and who were just Bulgarians, and who are we supposed to be looking at at the right time.

And also, frankly keeping a straight face. I mean Robert and I have a lot of fun on set and I think it's always nice to have sort of a sparkle in your eye having just cracked some silly joke, and then having to force it - your things together for the scene adds a wonderful sense of sort of tension (and like the thing). But at the same time you're fighting the instinct to sort of giggle, or in my case make some kind of rude comment about Robert's acting.

ROBERT PICARDO: I would say that there's one other challenge to working in Bulgaria that David and I as happily married men, I don't have to say this, but I noticed some of our British compatriots who were single did, and that is that all Bulgarian women look like super models. So, it does affect...

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah, what's with that?

ROBERT PICARDO: It's unbelievable. I had a friend who worked there, another actor friend who when he was being driven from the airport the cab driver said, "In Bulgaria, all the women look like super models." And then, he said he kind of laughed at that like, "Yeah, right, buddy," and got dropped off and went into the hotel lobby and realized that it was true. They are just some of the most attractive women in the world.

So as I said, this did not affect David and my concentration, but I noticed it was an issue on some of the other actors focus.

DAVID HEWLETT: That is very true; very true, yes.

QUESTION: What do you think it is about this movie that'll make people tune in to watch?

DAVID HEWLETT: Robert Picardo.

ROBERT PICARDO: David Hewlett. I'm hoping that because it is very loosely based on the H.G. Wells - some concepts taken from a great classic novel, but nonetheless, the Morlocks are some very fearsome creatures that were created in this classic novel many, many years ago.

So, I think that our main hook is that people are interested in seeing a story about these future creatures that have been reduced either by a toxic society or some sort of weird natural selection in the future that have been reduced to these very powerful soulless, vicious, creatures.

It's a little like what's happening in our political discourse at the moment, but the - (under the dullness) remains that analogy.

DAVID HEWLETT: Boy, you really elevated it. That's amazing. I was just going to say, it really is just a fun ride. I mean, there's just so much going on. I mean, Mad Matt Cob who directed it is a fantastic fellow who does a lot of contextual art and stuff for big, huge films and fantastic artist, and he's directed a couple of these things and he directed ours.

Like if it's not a Morlock it's like some weird looking chicken thing, it's just kind of non-stop fun. So, I think there's definitely some Sci-Fi stuff that you can enjoy in there, but I think it's just sort of settle back with a nice big thing of popcorn. I like putting a little bit of the hot sauce on it, and then just enjoy the ride.

And truly Picardo, Robert, you are a wonderful, mad military type.

ROBERT PICARDO: Well, I didn't have the opportunity to see it. I only am remembering back to David's very funny and charming performance. So, unfortunately because I was playing this particular character did not have a lot of laughs, or intentional laughs otherwise, but David's character has a lot of wry, throw away comments, which provide a lot of the fun in the movie.

As I said, I think probably the only funny moment I have is the unintentionally hilarious moment in front of the green screen where I'm being sucked into the time rift, but I haven't seen it yet.

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah, look - you guys can look for it now, now that we've mentioned it and brought it up...

ROBERT PICARDO: Yeah, I think anybody who knows our work from other science fiction will definitely want to see us going in and out of time rifts because it's an opportunity that may not come again.

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah, true.

QUESTION: I have to say that as a fan it is a real treat to see you guys, two legends of the sci-fi world working together again to bring new life to a classic story.

ROBERT PICARDO: Well, I couldn't have said it any better than that. Can we call that my quote?

QUESTION: Sure. So, I'd like to know about the time machine itself, because it was such a centerpiece in the original story. How does the time traveling supposedly occur in this new version?

DAVID HEWLETT: It's using the latch. We're using a mechanism called the "latch," which basically opens the rift. And as a result, when the last goes missing it's essential that we go and basically retrieve it otherwise it's going to in this case it's open - it's not functioning properly so it's opening erratically now and again and causing all sorts of chaos.

But the latch is the key and the latch is what my character basically invented, though it didn't work, and then as we discovered in this film that it obviously did work and in fact it is being used for evil purposes by people like Robert Picardo, (Wichita).

ROBERT PICARDO: So from David's perspective it is vindicating him for having suffered a certain amount of ridicule for creating this thing that may or that apparently didn't succeed. So he gets to vindicate his work, but also redeem the thing itself because it's being used for an apparently evil purpose.

Again, and my character is using it, yes, in a very self-centered way, but at least there's the emotional justification I guess that he's gone off the deep end because of his son's imminent death from this very aggressive cancer.

DAVID HEWLETT: It's a nice little emotional attachment and a nice little sort of emotional twist on the actual science of it as well. The science is being used to cure cancer in this guys' mind.

ROBERT PICARDO: But, I'm out of my mind. I emphasize that I am crazy.

DAVID HEWLETT: And you're - and his character too.


ROBERT PICARDO: David knows in real life that if we had to point to one of us as being crazier than the other, then most of our acquaintances would definitely not be pointing in this particular direction.

DAVID HEWLETT: No comment.

QUESTION: I noticed that in the preview the first one I saw it didn't have a Morlock monster in it, it had something that looked more like a dinosaur, are there other creatures that you encounter through the rift?

DAVID HEWLETT: Yes. Yes. There are these - I refer to them as the evil chickens, but they are these sort of giant sort of flightless birds that are scavengers basically. Those are one of the evil things that we have to avoid. And basically the idea we see Morlocks and we see these bird-like creature things, which I don't think are ever sort of actually named in the show.

I think, "Dammit, there's an opportunity there I could have come up with a good name." But, the idea of being that the world has sort of disintegrated into such chaos that there's all sorts of these strains, like mutant-like strains of animals and stuff. These are only two of the many different sorts of horrors that are out there, so you know?

And you know what's scary is being attacked by a giant, flightless chicken.

ROBERT PICARDO: And my character doesn't experience the giant flightless chickens first-hand because being the Commander he just has to send other people off into danger, which is one of the wonderful prerogatives of being an actor later on in your career when they make you the boss. You just tell other people, "It's time for you get hosed down by the blood cannon today, David, while I sit in the command room and look through the window and call out orders."

So, it's fun to assume the mantle of command and send other people off to get humiliated.

DAVID HEWLETT: All the time steaming from his head.

QUESTION: And you don't need a stunt double.

DAVID HEWLETT: Stunt double; he had a stunt double, right. (Unintelligible) yeah, just throw him off a cliff he's fine.

QUESTION: When you guys accepted [these roles], being able to redo a classic, what did you want to bring to each of your individual characters?

DAVID HEWLETT: My bit thing is always humor. I never liked science fiction that took itself too seriously because I think there's a danger there of getting a bit melodramatic and I think you can lose people there.

I think there's a fine line. I think I talked to, I think it was Tom who said this, Tom Vitale who's in charge of all the stuff, he was saying that basically this line between - well, you have to commit to it. So, you're committing to the peril of the situation, but at the same time it's at such a heightened level that it doesn't take people out of the movie, but at the same time it makes it suddenly a little bit more over the top than what would normally happen in life.

I was always brought up on Dr. Who and stuff like that and I loved that sense of humor that came with it because I always felt that the funny stuff always made the scarier stuff scary, you know what I mean? It also helped take the sort of the curse off some of the techno babble and that kind of stuff.

So, I would say my approach to almost every science fiction role is to try to make it fun.

ROBERT PICARDO: I had great fun playing such a macho character. If you're looking at my other major science fiction roles, the doctor on Star Trek, and certainly Woolsey on Stargate, I often play characters that might be good theorists and good thinkers, but you wouldn't call either of them very macho characters.

But, for some reason whenever I do a Syfy Channel movie, this applies to the one I did before this as well where I played this ruthless businessman, they always cast me in these very macho roles and for a guy who is ruled at home by his wife and two daughters it's a wonderful excursion into fantasy for me.

QUESTION: ...David, you were awesome in [Rise of] the Planet of the Apes...

DAVID HEWLETT: Oh, thank you very much.

QUESTION: Bringing up Planet of the Apes ties into my first question. Robert mentioned acting on stage and both of you are accomplished actors, there are some actors that lament the increase in green screen and CGI, do you both enjoy that?

Do you think it's a necessary evil or is something that you look forward to or look for, or try to just take it because it's another paycheck, or what are your views on the increasing role of the green screen and CGI characters, especially like [with] Planet of the Apes and now, things like Morlocks?

DAVID HEWLETT: Well, the funny thing with Planet of the Apes is that they'd gotten to the point with (chronology) where you are able to interact so much more than you used to be. Like when I started it really was just tennis balls on the end of sticks and that kind of stuff.

They just couldn't do this when I started. So there's actually more to interact with than there used to be, but again, I always loved it. I think it's - I don't know how you find this, Robert, but to me acting for film and television, is so disjointed anyways.

You often find yourself doing lines to the person, but not to the person's left eye or just off someone's shoulder or something, because your eye lines have to be different than what you're actually capable of doing on set. And so, there's a huge amount of just acting to the unnatural situations and such.

So, the fact that's it's CG, the fact that they're monsters really makes it. In a way, I think it's actually easier because you get to just sort of go all out for that kind of stuff. I love it. I love the technical side of it. I'm a nerd, so I just sort of get a kick out of that whole side of stuff.

I think if you want to do stuff where you get to play a character all the way through that's why people love theater, right? I mean, and that's certainly something - Robert, you're doing that now on...

ROBERT PICARDO: I don't know that I love it as much as David does, but I've certainly made my peace with it and I do agree with him very much that it's getting more and more sophisticated so that what used to be basically just the cut away shot of whatever we were looking at that was CGI, now it's very much more interactive. But, it still puts a great premium on imagination and for the actor and trying to get an idea from the visual effects people on set and from the director exactly what their idea is so that you can give them choices that hopefully one or several of which will succeed in the finished version.

So, it requires a certain amount of imagination and patience, but I enjoy - it's essential to science fiction obviously, so it's part of the game so I respect that and understand it. It is wonderful once in a while to get back to just a dramatic scene between two people and the other person is right there. And it just seems closer to what most people's first experiences acting on stage, whether it's in high school or whatever, people that get bitten by the performing bug.

So, it is fun to be doing what I'm doing now, which is just getting up on a stage and talking and interacting, and in this particular case singing with other people. It's without any major technology intervening.

DAVID HEWLETT: And being loved by The L.A. Times too.

ROBERT PICARDO: And being loved by The L.A. Times and getting to kiss a woman on stage again, how wonderful.

DAVID HEWLETT: I'm not going to go down that road...Robert, did you start in theater? Was that how you got started?

ROBERT PICARDO: Yeah, in my early 20s I did a couple of leading roles on Broadway, the second of which was playing the son of the wonderful legend, Jack Lemmon...

DAVID HEWLETT: Oh, of course.

ROBERT PICARDO: ...this was in the late 70s, so I came to California to recreate that role with Jack out here and planned to spend, you know, 12 weeks in California, and now it's been about 32 years. So, it's a seductive place and there's certainly a lot of work. There's still plenty of theater out here too, so you canwork in all media out here in Los Angeles.

And also, I married a woman who doesn't like the cold, so I don't think I'll be going back to New York any time soon.

DAVID HEWLETT: And she's a fantastic woman too, so you don't want to - yeah, you don't want to mess with that.

ROBERT PICARDO: No, I want to keep her happy. For example, I don't know that she would be happy shooting in Bulgaria unless it were the springtime.

DAVID HEWLETT: Well, Jane actually came out to visit me at one point for one weekend, and then never came back, so yeah it didn't quite work for her. But...

ROBERT PICARDO: Well, that could be you though.

DAVID HEWLETT: That could be me. Thank God she finally gets rid of me for a while. That's funny. I think I did a little bit of school plays and stuff, but basically I got started doing little films with friends, so film was kind of the first thing that got me really sort of excited about acting. So maybe that has something to do with why I like the technical side of it so much.

QUESTION: [Robert], you mentioned singing on Broadway and you sang once or twice on Voyager...Have you ever considered releasing a musical CD where you sing?

ROBERT PICARDO: Well, embarrassingly I have made two or three, what we call, Vanity CDs. I raised money for the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, so I do have CDs, but they're mostly song parodies ridiculing Star Trek and science fiction and things like that. But, if you go to my web site you probably could get them, I'm just not necessarily saying you should.

DAVID HEWLETT: You know, Rachel just got a CD out too.

ROBERT PICARDO: Yes, Rachel just made a CD, I mean, a real studio CD...

MorlocksDAVID HEWLETT: It's gorgeous.

ROBERT PICARDO: ...and in fact she just gave me a copy so I haven't played it yet. I've had it for 48 hours, so I'm going to play it on my way to work. But, she's a terrific singer.

DAVID HEWLETT: It's really nice, and my God the artwork on the front is amazing too.

ROBERT PICARDO: This is Rachel Luttrell we're speaking of, Teyla from [Stargate] Atlantis.

DAVID HEWLETT: Well, actually I think (Mara) from Morlocks is also a singer as well and she's got some albums out as well. You'll have to look her up and see what she's got going (Mara Massler).

ROBERT PICARDO: Oh God, what a lovely - I mean first of all physically beautiful, but lovely personality. She's really wonderful.

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah. And having so much fun playing tough too. She's really enjoying running around with guns and stuff. She got all excited about it. I told her that was a phase.

ROBERT PICARDO: That's (the topic) listen, we complain about how cold we were, but let's give special recognition to the woman that are running around in tank tops carrying a gun freezing to death (while we)...

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah, that and childbirth are the reasons why I'm quite happy to remain a man.

ROBERT PICARDO: Although, you look good with a tank top and gun, David. I've seen it.

DAVID HEWLETT: Certainly perky.

QUESTION: So, one last question for Robert...

ROBERT PICARDO: Did we scare you away? Are you going to ask another?


ROBERT PICARDO: I think we scared you.

DAVID HEWLETT: Or that they just hung up on us, basically it's just you and me now, Robert.

QUESTION: One quick last question for Robert, had you found out or were you upset that Zachary Quinto voiced the EMH in the massively multi-player Star Trek Online?

ROBERT PICARDO: I have to tell you, I was gratified that there was a little out crying in the fan base as to why they didn't use me, but I did not lose any sleep about it. And I think Zachary Quinto is spectacular in the new movie. I think he's a great Spock and one of my favorite performances from that film, so I look forward to seeing him in the next one. I'm very happy that the Star Trek franchise has been rebooted by J.J. Abrams. He's done a great job.

DAVID HEWLETT: That's a great - yeah, that film is fantastic.

ROBERT PICARDO: Yeah, and there's ancillary benefit to all of us because it just revitalizes the brand name in people. Young fans go back and they start watching because they see the movie and they love the movie, they become interested in the whole legend of Star Trek and start watching the older shows.

So, I'm happy that it's all happened, and no I do not bear any ill will towards Zachary Quinto.

QUESTION: David, I was wondering, can you explain to me what those big bird looking creatures are on the film?

DAVID HEWLETT: Everyone is confused by those. I think I'm probably as confused as everyone else by the big bird-like creatures. I think basically the idea is that the world in the future, which there's a nice little twist about that too in the film, but that these creatures from the future are kind of a combination of some human genetics and animal genetics and mutation.

And the giant chickens, as I call them, it's like the birds have reverted back to sort of almost like a dinosaur-like form. They're almost like raptors, the feathered raptors, which if my 4-year old son was here he could tell me what they were actually called. But, there's basically sort of a little wink and nod about going back to almost like dinosaurs.

It's a very sort of Land of the Lost-type thing. We only see Morlocks and bird-like creatures, but there are potentially many more of these kind of things out there, so that's it. I'm afraid all I know is to look scared and then run that way.

QUESTION: From the trailers I've watched it looks like a very physical shoot. What were the stunts like for you guys?

DAVID HEWLETT: Like cowering...


DAVID HEWLETT: Basically cowering for me. What did you do?

ROBERT PICARDO: Other than having to get sucked into the much maligned shot of being in front of the green screen, being sucked into the rift...

DAVID HEWLETT: But that was very Jane Fonda workout.

ROBERT PICARDO: Yes. It was, and that's why I'm frightened to see it. I don't remember having - I mean, a lot of the other actors had stunts, but I don't recall having any serious stunts. I remember I had to...

DAVID HEWLETT: I think there was a part...

ROBERT PICARDO: I had a scene when David's character was put in jail and I had to come and talk to him through the prison bars, I don't know why that popped into mind, but that was a scene I particularly enjoyed but did not involve any stunts as I recall. David, how did you escape the jail cell? I don't recall off hand.

DAVID HEWLETT: It's one of the things I don't (unintelligible), which I got a kind of a laugh out of it, how polite I am as a prisoner. There's one point where I'm very angry and the doors haven't closed yet, but I still I respect that there could be bars there and I don't actually leave the cell. So, it's a very Canadian-like prisoner for the...

ROBERT PICARDO: Is that being polite or just bad acting, David? Have you given it...

DAVID HEWLETT: I think it's - it was a choice, Robert. You know...

ROBERT PICARDO: I like being incarcerated here in my sub-zero prison cell.

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah. Well, I felt it was a duality of the character wanting to leave, but being afraid of facing the outside world. That and I got queued wrong.

ROBERT PICARDO: That and the door didn't work.

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah, that and the door failed too. That, and there was this Bulgarian stuck in the door works. Yeah, the only stunt I did, as I said, was cowering. Basically I do a lot of cowering, which I do enjoy very much, and which I do feel I'm quite good at. It's always a stunt acting opposite Robert Picardo, because you never know what he's going to do. You never know what he's going to throw at you. Basically your every muscle in your body is tense the entire time Robert is speaking for fear of what kind of challenging just - you know?

ROBERT PICARDO: Yeah, David knows that I like to work from the outside out. In fact they - they're not going to put me on television anymore, they're just going to view me from Google Earth.

DAVID HEWLETT: In his first satellite performance.

QUESTION: You guys mentioned how cold it was in Bulgaria, what was it like production-wise over there?

DAVID HEWLETT: It's crazy.

ROBERT PICARDO: Well, first of all the people were great. They're very warm, wonderful people and very anxious for - they...

DAVID HEWLETT: And very funny.

ROBERT PICARDO: ...want obviously production over there, and they're skilled in their various departments. However, you get the feeling, how should I put this, that they're just - it seems like certain things about it are very old fashioned from our perspective. For example, the fact that they can all smoke cigarettes on the set makes it seem instantly like it is 25 years ago from an American perspective.

What would you say, David that other differences are?

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah, it's weird. It's definitely a mentality. The difference, I mean they, I think quite justifiably, go like, "Well, it's a movie, what does it matter?" You know, what I mean? There's a sense where you get so used to in this industry, this kind of like desperate need to sort of excel and to be 24 hours and it's everything to the people in the industry.

And there, it's like another job and they do it well, and they're - the set design and the crew guys are - I mean they're amazing. They do this incredible stuff in the number of movies they put out. But there's just hilarious difficulties with translation, the back and forth. Bulgarians have like a nod in Bulgarian that means no, sometimes.

And so, there's often confusion in relation to that kind of stuff. And it's just a whole different mentality and I find it very funny, very endearing at times, very frustrating at others. They make a lot of these movies and they make then incredibly quickly, so it's very (unintelligible), I mean you know it's as it would be anywhere.

But, as to that the sub-zero temperatures and the language barrier, and it becomes quite an adventure, you know? I actually wrote an idea for a pilot – about a production company out in Bulgaria because I was just enamored with the way these things went because they don't watch this stuff.

Like they don't understand that like, "Well, why does giant chicken come and scare men? You know, why," they don't because it's not the kind of stuff they're really watching, right? They're very European. They make these fantastic little films. I saw a fantastic one when I was out there that one of the (VOPs) had done, which was called, oh what was it called, Scrambled or something? It was basically a little sort of slice of life about a women who can only afford to get three eggs for her family and she ends up taking them throughout this little short film.

And that's the kinds of films they make. We must look like idiots to them because we're like running and jumping around in front of green screens and shooting guns and screaming and being chased by these ridiculous creatures. I think for them they must find it all very, very amusing, you know?

And as a result, sometimes you find yourself stepping back and going like, "Hey, you're right this is ridiculous," you know? We come to these guys' country and then act like terrified monkeys.

ROBERT PICARDO: The key to more eggs for the family may be the giant hairless green screen chicken.

DAVID HEWLETT: Exactly. That's how I should have explained it to them.

SCIFI VISION: Is there something you guys learned since filming this show, like about yourself or in general?

DAVID HEWLETT: That is a very, very...

SCIFI VISION: Besides...


DAVID HEWLETT: ...leading question.

ROBERT PICARDO: Oh, boy. Well...

DAVID HEWLETT: We love complaining. I kind of already knew that, but we're incredibly good at complaining.

ROBERT PICARDO: I don't know that I've learned something from doing this experience, or in the intervening time since we did it? But as a result of doing this movie I've learned where David's Los Angeles address is since then, because I've been over to his house. No, we've become - I think from my perspective, because I joined the Atlantis series late and those bonds between David and the other cast members had been through four years, I felt that we really became friends on this experience because we were thrown together in these adverse circumstances. Although I had liked him very much on Atlantis I felt like I got to know him doing the movie.

So, my big take away was that I thought we really established a friendship beyond just friendly colleagues on the last season of Atlantis. So, without getting too mushy...

DAVID HEWLETT: Yeah, it was nice to sort of...

ROBERT PICARDO: ...that was my - I would say that was my best take away from the Morlocks experience.

DAVID HEWLETT: That's wonderful. That's very sweet of you. I sort of agree. I mean, we always sort of chatted in brief when we were shooting on Atlantis, but to actually have the time to sit down and eat that amazing pia in Bulgaria and stuff and just get to talk and work together. I mean, what's so funny is we're very different and very similar in many ways, and I very much respect your work and really do enjoy working with you, so we should do it more.

ROBERT PICARDO: Back at you because I agree that, and I mean I work with a lot of actors that make me laugh and without trying to sound like I'm patting myself on the back, I've made a lot of other actors laugh on the set, but no one makes me laugh as much as David does working with him. So I can say that unequivocally with all the funny people I've worked with.

DAVID HEWLETT: Oh, thank you. That's so sweet.

SCIFI VISION: Do either of you have any interesting, crazy, or just fun fan stories?


ROBERT PICARDO: My favorite fan story of all time was early on in my Star Trek experience. I went to, I think, it was somewhere in the South. I don't know if it was Tennessee or Alabama, but a fan came to the convention who carved tombstones for a living, so he gave me a tombstone with my face carved in it as a gift in - you know, in marble about, I don't know how much it weighed, probably about 40 pounds or something like that, but...


ROBERT PICARDO: ...my faced carved in marble. So, getting the tombstone home in my carryon bag is my favorite memory because when they open your bag because it's so heavy and they go, "Why are you carrying a tombstone onto the flight?" you want to say, "Well, I don't," you know, you don't want to say you have a bad feeling about the flight or that you're a Boy Scout and always like to be prepared for anything, but it was a fun story getting it home.

And the tombstone to this day sits in my garden. My wife is waiting for me to die, and no doubt she'll save a little money.

DAVID HEWLETT: It's already covered. Nice...


DAVID HEWLETT: ...God, if I ever got a tombstone. I've been very lucky. I think one of the things that I find funny is that many of the Stargate fans feel that because I am McKay that they are allowed to be McKay back to me. So, some people are pretty rough on me sometimes when I see them at conventions or whatever.

I mean, my favorite one is we did sort of a press sort of junket with bloggers. It was probably season 1 or season 2 and one of the interviewers from Germany said, "I see you in SG-1 and I hate you. I hate you. You make me sick. I don't like so much, but now you make me laugh." And that was the first question I got and I was like, "Oh, great."

SCIFI VISION: What's something your fans would be surprised to know about you?


DAVID HEWLETT: I'm very, very dull.

ROBERT PICARDO: That's not true. I'm a terrific cook. Maybe they'd be surprised to know that because I don't think I've ever cooked on screen in science fiction. But it's high time I did a Syfy cooking movie, so if anybody's out there who's got a story to pitch that involves someone who can cook and in an exciting - in front a green screen, I'm your guy.

DAVID HEWLETT: (That's his), while waving his hands. I can attest to that. Robert had us over for a pia party, actually a couple of times now, but the latest one was the - I still dream of the food there, like it was unbelievable. These little pias and stuff that he made and was it meatballs? What did you do? You did (unintelligible)...

ROBERT PICARDO: Oh, all sorts of - yeah, all the usual Italian fair, but since I got my wood fired pia oven I care less and less whether I'm working as an actor. I'm just as happy to be cooking in front of it.

DAVID HEWLETT: Perfect. And I'm more than happy to eat it too. So - boy, the things that people do. (Talk about me), I think I'm pretty transparent, but I recently got into gardening (unintelligible), which basically makes me instantly old. But, that's something I'm very, very surprised to find myself enjoying running around clipping roses and getting excited about grapefruits growing on trees and things.

So, like I said, I'm very dull.

ROBERT PICARDO: Well, between cooking and flower cutting I know we're sounding a little, what's the word, we're very in touch with our feminine side, let's put it that way.

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